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joebanana April 14, 2014 at 07:36 am
What a joke they're making of this. The reason for this crash is California's criminal negligence.Read More Obviously the "distance" between opposing traffic traveling at 80 MPH doesn't matter. A "K" rail between the two vehicles would have PREVENTED this crash, undoubtedly. But Ca. would rather pay their public criminals outrages salaries, than invest a little of that money on HIGHWAY SAFETY. I hope all the families of the crash victims know that they need to SUE THE HELL OUT OF the state of California .
Stoked April 14, 2014 at 09:00 am
It's all about $$$$$. No K rails or bigger trucks. If you think that double trailers are scary youRead More might want to steer clear of Oregon mountain highways where FedEx tows triples.
Henry Xavier April 14, 2014 at 12:49 pm
I think the texting, messaging may be a big part of this accident. Please don't drive and use aRead More electronic device. Profesional or a 17 year old girl driving dads truck. Its very scary. I see it all the time. She has it planted on the windshield in her view next to the steering wheel. peace.
Twitter photo.
SPH April 16, 2014 at 12:25 pm
BG777; Your "truth", my "truth"; it's all in the mind of the beholder, bud. IRead More trust you're not driving while talking to God on your cell phone(?).
BLUESGUITAR777 April 16, 2014 at 12:28 pm
@SPH - LOL... so by that notion if I believe the sky is really green with yellow polka-dots thenRead More that's the truth/my truth? No 'bud', there is only one Truth and all else is a lie. I will not continue to argue on this thread however, out of respect for the victims, so we're done here.
SPH April 16, 2014 at 03:31 pm
You mean you're done. Speak for yourself, son. See, that's the problem with evangelicals. They don'tRead More like it when someone wont partake of their Kool-Aid. (c;
Twitter photo of what the bus looked like as it was towed away.
Henry Xavier April 13, 2014 at 04:36 pm
I think Penny Are'valo has allot to learn. There is a learning curve for all of us regarding herRead More responses. However Do you think the drivers may have been texting while driving at the time of the accident. This may help
Carl Petersen III April 13, 2014 at 04:58 pm
Henry Xavier April 13, 2014 at 07:36 PM "This may help"Read More ________________________________________________________ How? You are pulling pure speculation out of thin air.
GreenInOC April 13, 2014 at 07:27 pm
@Henry Xavier, next time you claim someone is deficient in their education you might want to useRead More spell check. On another note, you ask (at least I think you are asking), if anyone thinks that the drivers were texting, then claim "This may help" (sic). How does that help?
CBS Sacramento screenshot of the bus accident in Orland, which took the lives of 10 people, including five students from Southern California.
Betsy April 12, 2014 at 08:45 am
My Prayers go out to all the affected families. A true loss and sadness for the families that withRead More so much hope in search for a brighter future had sent their precious children on that uneventful trip, our hearts cry with you.May those lost R.I.P
KTLA screenshot of students injured in a crash in Orland.
Lorelei Shark April 11, 2014 at 09:35 am
..."one of two students at Banning High School in Wilmington who was sitting in the back rowRead More told NBC4 the impact was sudden, extremely painful and immediately ignited a fire." This is horrific... but, the first thing that came to my mind - I'm sure SEAT BELTS were nowhere to be seen. Just a metal tomb where bodies get tossed around like packages. WHY does “Click It or Ticket” not apply to buses. School buses in particular - although Metro buses ought to require them also. Is it that seat belts cost too much money? How much is a life worth? The medical bills incurred in this crash could probably install seat belts in 1000 buses. The minimum ticket cost of an adult seat belt violation in California is $142 and up, and a minimum of $445 for not properly restraining a child under 16. If the parent is not in the car, the driver gets the ticket. Who gets this ticket?
Twitter photo of the accident scene in Brentwood this morning.
Val Streit April 10, 2014 at 09:44 am
Saw the crash between the Lexus and the truck. The bus was stopped with emergency lights on. I wasRead More behind the Lexus on Burlingame headed North.
Penny Arévalo (Editor) April 10, 2014 at 09:45 am
scary!
"Green dot" prepaid credit cards are often used in phone scams. Patch file photo.
Tony Hernandez April 9, 2014 at 10:02 pm
I was also made aware of a similar scam were these perpetrators are calling unsuspecting peopleRead More advising of an outstanding warrant because they owed money to the IRS. They have them send money with a prepaid card.
nitagregory April 10, 2014 at 07:32 am
I would of said well come get me. And act like I wasn't there when they come. Unless the swatRead More +Marshall's came and knocked the door in
Twitter photo of Malibu house fire.
Stephanie Bennett April 8, 2014 at 08:56 pm
Drug running on our beaches?!?!?! For my Grandfather, who settled here in the early 50's this placeRead More would be unrecognizable
yyzbethy April 9, 2014 at 06:19 am
Disgusting.
Laura Tompkins April 9, 2014 at 07:04 am
There are houses transformed into meth labs all over LA, not just Malibu. There are also markets allRead More over LA for selling their product. You can make meth in your kitchen - not the 'breaking bad' variety, but still the variety to get you very high. People do drugs. People make and distribute drugs. The drug 'war' has failed miserably. Over 2000 war veterans in the USA have committed suicide in the USA upon returning home since January 1, 2014! Are these suicides related to the 'war on drugs?' Damn straight they are. People are self-medicating in any form available since they are not being treated for their PTSD and depression and anxiety and overall emotional neglect. These meth labs are a direct result of neglect and abandonment by a culture of greed, political abuses and 'I got mine, fuck you' acceptance normalized. No where in LA is their more disparity of wealth than Malibu but meth labs exist everywhere. Fires are the least of the dangers. We are imploding and we are blaming the 'addicts.' We are doomed.
The panga boat full of marijuana found in Malibu this morning. Twitter photo.
John April 7, 2014 at 01:05 pm
These boats are filled with pot from giant drug organizations that would lose billions of dollars ifRead More pot (among other drugs) was legal. Legalize and this goes away.
Saltwater April 8, 2014 at 06:19 am
Sorry. I just don't believe that legalization will eliminate the criminal element from the potRead More trade.
John April 8, 2014 at 10:24 am
Our state is also great at regulation so ponder this. Legalize the use of marijuana. The stateRead More grows it, packages it, and sells it via state approved outlets. Only state produced strands are legal. Quality of what is used for it's growth is controlled. Just imagine the money our state would have. No more drug runs from the South. No more of our environment being poisoned including our national parks. Addiction centers paid for by the industry, roads can be fixed, homeless can be fed. Do it!
A second LAPD officer and practicing Wiccan has sued the department. Patch file photo.
Tatyanna M. Wilkinson April 9, 2014 at 10:01 am
Since none of you above are lawyers nor have you read the complete complaint, how do you know thisRead More is just a money grab or unfounded? I was let go from a job once and my boss, during the exit interview mentioned by spiritual practice and that she really respected me professionally but not personally. I *could* have sued because it was clear to me..after months of chatter...that I was being let go partially in part because of my spiritual practice(not Christian) and partially because they had to cut a staff person to save money. Why not cut the "heathen"
lorrie mcvicker April 9, 2014 at 12:20 pm
don't forget there are two sides to every story. Both probably have good reasons.
Mary A April 9, 2014 at 10:06 pm
Sorry, I'm a Christian, but I side with the Wiccans based on the information in this article. No oneRead More should be forced to be involved in religious ceremony as part of required workplace training, or retaliated against because they voiced their opposition. I have a lot of respect for the LAPD and for all people and places of worship that do good works. But on this one the LAPD blew it.
Patch file photo.
Jill Nichols April 3, 2014 at 06:57 pm
Was sitting at Starbucks when the power line went down. Appeared that a palm frond fell on the lineRead More causing the outage and the wires to sway. About 30 seconds later one of the swaying lines snapped causing a second loud noise. A guy in a grey suit and a couple of older teenagers did an excellent job redirecting traffic so no cars or pedestrians walked into the downed lines.
Penny Arévalo (Editor) April 3, 2014 at 06:59 pm
Thanks for the report!
The quake struck at 10:08 a.m. eight miles west-northwest of Malibu. U.S. Geological Survey photo.
Stuart Ebert April 3, 2014 at 12:27 pm
Must be due to all that fracking activity @ Pt. Dume. Keep dreamin folks.
Lowe's will pay various counties throughout California $18.1 million for mishandling hazardous waste. Patch file photo.
Virginia Johnson April 3, 2014 at 05:07 pm
Gosh! Who do we know who to picket. I stopped going to Home Depot because they were mandated byRead More their local Council or County in some area's to provide a building with restrooms and A.C. for illegal aliens to stand on the street corner hawking their bodies and wares when our own American Citizens; African, Mexican, Asian, Anglo, etc. were not provided the same amenities. Now where do I go, OSH?
kab1200 April 3, 2014 at 08:29 pm
Virginia Johnson, I guess you should just stay home and go shopping ever again. What a crockRead More of.......
LAPD officers will beef up efforts this month to find drivers who text and talk on their phones without hands-free devices. Patch file photo.
Penny Arévalo (Editor) April 2, 2014 at 03:31 pm
It's not necessarily victimless. Here's one case we're following in OC. While it's not clear whetherRead More the driver was using the phone at the time, the prosecutors are alleging she was "completely inattentive." http://sanjuancapistrano.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/defendant-was-completely-inattentive-when-she-slammed-into-softball-coachs-car
Very hypocritical, considering Paul Krekorian used city funds a few years ago to develop a cellRead More phone app to tell you whether parking is available in city parking structures without pulling into it first. You have to break the law in order to use it. HILARIOUS!! Now the city can make money from tickets the write for using an illegal app they developed. It is however the not quite deep thinking we have come to expect from our councilman I CAN NOT ARGEE WITH YOU MORE Arthur PAUL HAS DONE THOGH AS YOUR COUNCILMEN . HE DRIVES A CITY OWN TAXS PAYERS CAR AROUND ALL DAY. PAUL SAYS IT IS OK FOR THE TAX PAYERES TOL PAY FOR A ONE HUNDRED AND AND EIGHTY FIVE THOUNDS DOLLARS SETTLEM. HE MUST BE VOTE OUT OF OFFICE JUST A OTHER TWO FACE JERK THAT NEEDS TO GO.
Rudy Marin April 3, 2014 at 05:49 pm
What about Police Officers driving and talking on their cellphones? Again, Double Standards.
Patch photo credit: Renee Sciavone
Jo P April 1, 2014 at 05:04 pm
It was a ball game.....one side wins, one side loses.....get over it. The point to be taken hereRead More is sportsmanship, respect and tolerance were obviously missing. Regardless of nationality, heritage or political affiliation, there should be a common denominator of decency, which obviously was lacking in these thugs.
Angel April 1, 2014 at 11:57 pm
Wow, when did the OC Register readers become Patch commentators?
The Beast ! April 10, 2014 at 01:30 am
This is a perfect example of the deep rooted social problems that exist in the Los AngelesRead More metropolitan area. This does not happen in other cosmopolitan cities.
Officer Victoria DeBellis has sued LAPD for harassment. Patch file photo.
Don March 31, 2014 at 12:24 pm
Well if all this hate, sexism and race is going on, Chief Beck and all the Commanders and CaptainsRead More should have their employment contracts terminated If this is a frivolous lawsuit by the officer she should be terminated for fraudulent claims and also pay for attorney and other legal fees associated with the scam One of the other, is the only good choice, for the taxpayers this time. Oh, I'm thinking of the taxpayers? Yes, nobody else appears to be doing so
Kelly Maureen Desmore April 2, 2014 at 10:03 am
om mani padme hum...blessings to Victoria...
Patch file photo.
Cort Day March 31, 2014 at 10:48 am
Read it. Who is Michael Bastasch? My first post was fracking with a question mark. Quoting yourRead More article I capped doubt and could because I can't underline it. "The article notes that seismologists DOUBT fracking had anything to do with the LA quake, but environmentalists argue that fracking COULD be a culprit." Something wrong with asking the question? I'm certain this argument could go on forever or until you ignite your tap water then I win and it's too late for both of us.
Cort Day March 31, 2014 at 10:55 am
I don't want to see this happen here. http://rt.com/usa/azle-texas-austin-fracking-979/
Shripathi Kamath March 31, 2014 at 10:49 pm
Oklahoma recorded some quakes as strong or stronger than the aftershocks here:Read More http://www.wunderground.com/news/oklahoma-earthquake-swarm-felt-kansas-missouri-20140330
Several items were damaged at this home near the quake's epicenter, in Placentia. Photo credit: Hannah Hirzel.
EDWARD SIEGEL April 1, 2014 at 02:52 pm
NUCLEAR-REACTOR/”ENERGY”/POWER(!!!): C A V E A T E M P T O R !!!Read More DR. EDWARD “MONJU” SIEGEL[CATEGORYSEMANTICS@GMAIL.COM] METALLURGIST/PHYSICIST [INTL.CONF.MAGNETIC ALLOYS OXIDES,(ICMAO) TECHNION, HAIFA, ISRAEL(AUG. 1977)- IN: J. MAGNETISM & MAGNETIC MATERIALS( JMMM), VOL.7, PAGE 312 (1978)- ONLINE AT WWW.FLICKR.COM & SEARCH FOR "GIANT-MAGNETORESISTANCE" (GMR) & SEEK PAGE 312!!![] AT: WESTINGHOUSE!!!(WARD/WAPD/WNES)(1970-1974),PSEG,IAEA (1977),ABB PREDICTED EXACTLY THIS DEMISE 35-YEARS AGO(!!!) HAVING WORKED AT WARD(WALTZ-MILLS) CORRECTLY PREDICTED (SO MIS-CALLED) 'SUPER"ALLOYS' [ Ni & Fe-BASED] GENERIC ENDEMIC EXTANT (SYNONYMS): WIGNER'S-DISEASE/ OSTWALD-RIPENING/ SPINODAL-DECOMPOSITION [CAHN, KYOTO-PRIZE(2011)!!!] /THERMAL-LEADING-TO- (TLTM)-IN-STABILITY/OVER-AGEING-EMBRITTLEMENT/" SENSITIZATION" THAT WOULD DOOM MONJU LMFBR), AKA CLINCH-RIVER BREEDER-REACTOR. WHICH GREAT NUCLEAR ENGINEER, PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER, THREW IN THE GARBAGE, THEN WESTINGHOUSE PICKED UP, DUSTED OFF, & PURPOSELY DEFRAUDED JAPAN FOR ~ $100-BILLION!!! SIEGEL FOR HIS DIRE-PREDICTION(S!!!) WAS FIRED BY: IAEA, WESTINGHOUSE, PSEG[GOOGLE: "ANA MAYO IF L E A K S COULD KILL"; VILLAGE VOICE, PAGE-38, AUG.21,1978): < http://news.google.com/newspap... >] [GOOGLE "EDWARD SIEGEL: ANIMATEDSOFTWARE.COM", SUPERALLOYS"; WHISTLEBLOWER"; GIANT-MAGNETORESISTANCE"] CHEATED OUT OF PRIZES: 2006 JAPAN/WOLF; 2007 PHYSICS(GMR) NOBEL!!! BY: FERT/GRUENBERG/KFZ/THALES-GROUP/ "PHALIES-GROPE"/ALCATEL-LUCENT/BELL-LABS/REED-ELSEVIER/AREVA/EdF/JAPAN-AEC!!!
EDWARD SIEGEL April 1, 2014 at 02:53 pm
CYBER-“SECURITY”??? CYBER-TERRORISM! CYBER- W A R ! ! !Read More VIA SIEGEL-ANTONOFF[BROUT-ENGLERT(2013 PHYSICS NOBEL-PRIZE)-HIGGS]-… D I G I T (S) – P H Y S I C S !!! INTERSECTION/ BOSE-EINSTEIN QUANTUM-STATISTICS(BEQS) = BOSE-EINSTEIN CONDENSATION(BEC)!!!/ UNION WITH BARABASI-ALBERT-BIANCOMI(BAB) N E T W O R K (S) [EVOLVING/”COMPLEX”)- P H Y S I C S !!! Network-Physics(NP) Barabasi-Albert-Bianconi Bose-Einstein Quantum-Statistics Bose-Einstein Condensation(BEC) Intersection With Euler-Newcomb-Weyl-Benford-Kac-Hill Digits Logarithm-Law Algebraic-Inversion GapFUL BEC Commonality Proof Via SCALE-INVARIANCE Commonality: DIGITAL(#)-VULNERABILITY versus FAULT-TOLERANT ANALOG-Networks; (so miscalled) "Computational"-"Complexity" Cook-Levin theorem REDUCIBILITY/COMPLETENESS Siegel-Antonoff-Smith[AMS Joint Mtg.(2002)-Abs.973-60-124] digits logarithmic- (Newcomb[Am. J. Math.4,39(1881)]-Weyl[Goett. Nachr.(1914); Math. Ann. 77,313(1916)]-Benford[J. Am. Phil. Soc. 78,115(1938)]-Kac[The Mathematics of Statistical-Reasoning(1955)])-"NeWBe"/"OLDbe")-law algebraic-inversion to ONLY Bose-Einstein Quantum-Statistics with digit d = 0 gapFUL Bose-Einstein-CONDENSATION(BEC): digits are quanta are (ONLY) bosons because quanta can be bosons always were digits!!! Hill[Proc. Am. Math.Soc., 123,3,887(1995)] pure-mathematics proof(finally!!!) via units-invariance = logarithm-function (1,0)-fixed-point base-invariance = SCALE-INVARIANCE connects with Barabasi-Bianconi-Albert[Science 287,2115a(2000); Int. Jour. Mod. Phys. B 15, 313-320 (2001); Phys. Rev. Letters 86,5632(2001); Rev. Mod. Phys. 74,47(2002);...] "scale-free"/SCALE-INVARIANCE networks-physics: evolving complex-graph-theory 1:1-mapping onto statistical-physics/mechanics!!! Synthesis reveals electromagnetic-pulse(EMP)-like SEVERE VULNERABILITY of ONLY/ALL PURELY-DIGITAL-networks(VS. FAULT-TOLERANT ANALOG-networks INvulnerability) via Barabasi-Bianconi-Albert "Network-Physics" scale-free SCALE-INVARIANCE relative-"statics"(VS. dynamics-[Willinger-Alderson-Doyle(Not.AMS(5/09)]-]critique)!!! (so called) "Quantum-computing is simple-arithmetic(sans division/factorization); algorithmic-complexities: INtractibility/UNdecidability/INefficiency/ NON-computability/HARDNESS(so MIScalled) "noise"-induced-phase-transitions(NITS) ACCELERATION: Cook-Levin theorem Reducibility is Renormalization-(Semi)-Group fixed-points; number-Randomness DEFINITION via WHAT? Query(VS. Goldreich[Not.AMS(2002)] How? mea culpa)can ONLY be Maxwell-Boltzmann classical-statistics "infinitely-hot-plasma" versus digit-clumping "NeWBe"-logarithm-law NON-random BEC; Modular-arithmetic Congruences = Signal X Noise PRODUCTS = clock-model; NON-Shor Holthaus-Page-Weiss[Physica A,341,586(04)] BEC logarithmic-law inversion factorization: Watkins number-theory intersection/connections to statistical-physics/mechanics); P=/=NP TRIVIAL Proof: Euclid!!! [(So Miscalled) computational-complexity(VS. Siegel physics-"complexity" is UTTER-SIMPLICITY!!!) jargonial-obfurscation(J-O) obviation via classic Greek plane-geometry.]
EDWARD SIEGEL April 1, 2014 at 02:54 pm
AN A B S O L U T E LY L A Y M A N ' S M U S T – R E A D!!! FOUND ONLINE ON WORLD-WIDE-WEB BYRead More GOOGLING [ "EDWARD SIEGEL ROMAN ROLLNICK THE EUROPEAN WEEK ENDING JANUARY 1993 NUCLEAR CRACKING" ] THEN:GOOGLING: [ "EDWARD SIEGEL ANIMATEDSOFTWARE.COM" ] [http://www.animatedsoftware.co... ] From: "Russell D. Hoffman" <rhoffman@animatedsoftware.com>
Several items were damaged at this home near the quake's epicenter, in Placentia. Photo credit: Hannah Hirzel.
George March 29, 2014 at 10:26 am
I was at rock & roll Ralphs on Sunset and didn't feel a thing. Came home and heard we had anRead More earthquake.
Richard Mathews March 29, 2014 at 10:28 am
USGS's Did You Feel It shows a bunch more counties where this was felt than the seven listed in thisRead More article. Add Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, Imperial, and Inyo. In Nevada, add Nye and Clark (Las Vegas). In Arizona, add Maricopa (Phoenix). http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/ci15481673#dyfi
Lynn Smith March 30, 2014 at 07:54 am
Just as researchers are starting to link earthquakes with fracking in Texas and surrounding states,Read More Southern California has four earthquakes in a month. Our city officials need to ban this needless, dangerous and largely unregulated business.
Police detained 14, arrested six in connection with a suspected theft ring. Patch file photo.
mimi March 28, 2014 at 09:54 am
Can air travel get any worse? Lost planes, stolen luggage, terrorists, dirty seats,blankets &Read More pillows. What part of air travel is still appealing?
Andrea March 28, 2014 at 10:18 am
Unfortunately, it's still the only means of transportation to some destinations!
mimi March 29, 2014 at 10:02 am
Andrea- Correct up to a point. If people stopped vacationing at destinations that require airRead More travel, the financial impact would be enormous, if not catastrophic. Then watch how fast air travel will improve.
James Vincent Reiss received a sentence of 10 years for bilking his legal clients out of $3 million. Patch file photo.
Scott Zwartz March 27, 2014 at 06:25 am
Reiss was merely following the rules of professional conduct which allow an attorney to sell hisRead More client's secrets to the highest bidder. There was a time when attorneys owed a duty of loyalty to their clients and had to keep all confidential information secret and never enter into any business arrangement which harmed their clients. Those quaint old days are no more. An attorney may now tell his client that he wants more money and if his client wants to stick with the written attorney fee contract, the atty is free to go out and sell the confidential information which he learned from his client to the highest bidder. In this case, Attorney Reiss seemed a little eager and did not bother to find a second client who would then make bogus claims against Reiss's original client in order to extort his original client to pay him more. Perhaps, such extortion works only against the little guy and not against a powerful agency. If you're a small fry with an important case, don't be surprised if you atty turns to you near the end of the case and extorts additional fees from you. If you don't pay up, then your confidential information may very soon become quite public. In one recent case, the judge refused to allow the extorted client to fire his attorney and forced the client to sit there while the attorney raked in tens of thousands of unearned fees. How does one protect oneself? One can't, as long as attorneys owe no duty of loyalty to their clients.
Donkey Howdy March 27, 2014 at 07:26 am
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/lawyers-lawfirms/attorney-client-privilege.html
Jock March 27, 2014 at 07:30 am
Most of the politicians in office are attorneys. Does that shine any lights folks ? I normally don'tRead More quote the Bible but Matthew and Luke writng about the words of Jesus... Matthew 23:23 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former..... Luke 11:52 "Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering."
On Dec. 27, David Pregerson was struck by a hit-and-run driver who has not been found to this day. He died four days later. Patch file photo.
palypups March 26, 2014 at 02:50 pm
Not likely that the guilty party is a reader of the Palisades Patch or Post...if they are local andRead More drive that route, i vote for installing a big banner at the scene advertising the reward (in English and Spanish).
Ted J March 27, 2014 at 06:08 am
Any idea why he was walking at 3am?????
Gwen T April 9, 2014 at 07:53 am
Ted, why does it matter why he was walking at 3am? Have you ever been out late yourself? He was hitRead More by a car and then moved and left for DEAD! Who are you to judge? Shame on you!
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