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Palisadians Question LAPD About Noisy Motorcyclists

Pacific Palisades Community Council meeting attendees urge the LAPD to do more to stop a noisy pack of motorcycles.

At the Sept. 22 Pacific Palisades Community Council meeting, members and residents reiterated their opposition to a large group of who, for the last several years, frequently ride along Sunset Boulevard at night.

"At best what we're going to be able to do with the motorcycles is just manage them in a manner where they're lawful," said Los Angeles Police Department Officer Chris Ragsdale at the meeting.

Ragsdale also noted that the cyclists may be wearing helmets equipped with radios that allow them to alert each other of the whereabouts of police.

"As soon as one [motorcyclist] sees the police they get the message across to everybody," said Ragsdale. "That might be why ... the majority of the times that we see them, they are being lawful."

Council members and residents questioned the level of police presence on the corridor of Sunset Boulevard between Chautauqua Boulevard and Pacific Coast Highway.

"We'll stop them if we have a violation," Ragsdale said. "I want to make it clear, we can't make them go away ... so they will continue this route."

The officer said the motorcycle group often congregates at the 76 gas station where Sunset meets PCH, and on Monday he counted approximately 25 riders.

Council members suggested advocating for local or state legislation banning large groups of motorcycle riders from traversing city streets in a large, fast-moving pack like the one in question.

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Bob September 30, 2011 at 02:27 PM
Since 1999 I've owned a home in the Palisades, and I am affected by the cycle noise. But "Council members suggested advocating for local or state legislation banning large groups of motorcycle riders from traversing city streets in a large, fast-moving pack like the one in question"? Bad idea. Wrong move.. Typical council members reaction to every problem is to legislate over-broadly. Noise is the present problem. Noise limits on vehicles already exist. Speed is the problem. Speed limits already exist. Groups can ride quietly. And they can ride at safe speeds. They should be permitted to do so, in a free country. "Large packs" should not be outlawed, and indeed probably may not be without violating constitutional rights to assembly and to travel. Ban, ban, ban. Prohibit, prohibit, prohibit. This knee jerk response is usually the wrong one. Bob Hill (Pac. Pal.)
Mary September 30, 2011 at 03:13 PM
Bob you have too much common sense and are so correct. I'd suggest you to run for council but you are too logical and the rest of the members would never understand such a simple aproach to this challenge. We,too, are affected by the on-going motorcycle noise. Anybody got a spike strip? Chris Stein (Pac Pal)
Jerome Cleary September 30, 2011 at 03:14 PM
We have the same problem in West Hollywood as our city council actually passed an ordinance but now years later the City of West Hollywood does not enforce their own laws and the residents have to suffer with the really loud noise all day and night long.
C.E. Stuart September 30, 2011 at 05:13 PM
Road motorcycles for year until old age made me stop. I live one block off Sunset and when I hear the bikes, I just smile and wish I was riding with them.
Linda Rubin September 30, 2011 at 06:42 PM
I often seen the bikers at the 76 station and the sight of them is alarming, so I'm glad to know their behavior is lawful. There must have been 50 of them there last night. Who are those people, anyhow?
Bob Lee September 30, 2011 at 09:39 PM
"These people" are your neighbors. Why does it alarm you? We (motorcyclists, though I am not one of those that ride Sunset) are alarmed when we see drivers eating, texting, talking on the phone, applying make-up, throwing cigarette butts out their window, and generally being inattentive on the road. Who are those people, anyhow?
Jerome Cleary September 30, 2011 at 10:21 PM
This is a noise issue with motorcyclists with no muffler or whatever is needed to deaden the sound. The texting, eating, applying makeup, talking on the phone, throwing cigarettes out the window do not make the noise disturbance that these motorcyclists make. And where I live it can be at 2am in the morning!
Jerome Cleary October 01, 2011 at 03:52 PM
this is a noise issue of disturbing the peace
Will Saunders September 08, 2012 at 08:10 AM
As written on behalf of the People of Los Angeles: SEC. 114.02. MOTOR DRIVEN VEHICLES. (Amended by Ord. No. 156,363, Eff. 3/29/82.) (a) It shall be unlawful for any person to unreasonably operate any motor driven vehicle upon any property within the City or to unreasonably accelerate the engine of any vehicle, or unreasonably sound, blow or operate the horn or other warning device of such vehicle in such manner: 1. As to disturb the peace, quiet and comfort of any neighborhood or of any reasonable person residing in such area 2. That such activity is audible to the human ear at a distance in excess of 150 feet from the property line of the noise source; 3. As to create any noise which would cause the noise level on the premises of any occupied residential property, or if a condominium, apartment house or duplex, within any adjoining unit, to exceed the ambient noise level by more than five (5) decibels. (b) This section shall not be applicable to any vehicle which is operated upon any public highway, street or right-of-way or to the operation of any off-highway vehicle to the extent it is regulated in the Vehicle Code. I can testify to the fact that the motorcycle noise can be heard in excess of 150ft from Sunset, and that it exceeds the legal five (5) decibel limit. I was just woken up by this noise and felt the need to set the record straight. http://www.nonoise.org/lawlib/cities/losangel.htm

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