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Divide Grows Over Task Force Charged With Finding Palisades Substation Site

Sharp differences between the Pacific Palisades Community Council and the Coalition of Palisadians to Keep Marquez Charter Safe are stalling efforts to locate a new site for the LADWP substation.

A task force charged with finding a new location for Los Angeles Department of Water and Power's controversial substation in Pacific Palisades is at the center of a growing dispute itself.

The task force, meeting for the first time Wednesday, was formed after strong opposition arose earlier this year, route: {:controller=>"articles", :action=>"show", :id=>"sparks-fly-at-pali-power-station-meeting"} --> to DWP's proposal to locate its second distributing station in Palisades on land it owns next to 

Daniel Espinosa September 22, 2012 at 07:42 PM
Explosions? zero, actually; but this is the one substation in the area that becomes highly overloaded in the summer. But if we don't build another substation soon, it will fail catastrophically and it won't be a pretty sight! And it will be weeks to months before power gets restored to the neighborhood. This substation is so full of equipment trying to keep up with the neighborhood power usage that no more equipment can be shoehorned in. Wake up, neighbors! Time to reduce the loading on this station, for the health of the community.
Daniel Espinosa September 22, 2012 at 07:55 PM
Zero, actually. Some of the voltage regulating equipment has failed, occasionally, because the substation become well over 100% overloaded in the summer. So whatis YOUR solution? Stop using so much electricity in the summer? Well then start talking that up with the community and see how receptive they are! It will go over like a fart in polite company.
PaliMC September 22, 2012 at 10:16 PM
So if the current station, built decades ago has never had a problem and proces reliable except for the fact that it is overloaded, and no one is ill, surely the new facility will be safer because of its new design and engineering specs. I was at the meeting where DWP presented the proposal for the plant. I listened to a lot of parents concerned about the health and safety of their kids. But have they hired and engineer to investigate/review the design of this plant to determine if their safety concerns can be met? Inhave not heard that they have done this otherwise Indon't see why they are up in arms. No one at the meeting Who was against the plant offered any negative data about this plant design, just general facts about the rate of plant fires across the US. If the plant is built to prevent overload, then wouldnt therisk be sognificantly reduced, like the odds of a,devistating tsunami. Im sorry, but inwould loke someone to offer up facts why this plant will surely endanger my family.
Daniel Espinosa September 23, 2012 at 04:51 AM
There are places where electricity is made; they are called Power Plants. Then when the electricity is made it is sent to substations, called Distributing Stations, for delivery to neighborhoods. DWP is NOT building a Plant here. DWP is building a Station. Plants burn fuel to make electricity. They are dangerous places. I probably wouldn't live near one. Stations contain equipment to drop to voltage and send the electricity to your house. They use big transformers to do that (you've seen smaller transformers all over, they are the round cans on the telephone poles near your homes). Now here is the problem: Pacific Palisades has grown, and the old transformers are tired; they need help from a new Station (thinking of buying an electric car?). The existing station is too small and crowded with equipment; it hasn't room for more equipment. How safe are Stations? Safer than letting your child use a cell phone, safer than sitting too close to the TV, safer than using a lap-top computer on your lap (thinking of getting pregnant?) I'd live near a Station, the new ones don't even look like Stations. You are correct: these Stations are safe. They are not Plants. No electricity made here. That comes from Oregon (dams), Arizona (nuclear), Utah (coal), and near Long Beach (natural gas). And if a tsunami hits us, we're in big trouble, but it won't be because the Station melts down, like the Plant did in Japan.
Daniel Espinosa September 23, 2012 at 05:30 AM
What's this hogwash of having the City Council have LADWP fund an independent energy consultant work with the task force to re-examine the need for the second Distributing Station (DS-104)? Who thinks the LADWP has that kind of money to burn in this economy. Here is a simpler solution: have the task force (all of them, or a single representative) go read the meters on the equipment on a moderately warm day and find ONE that isn't pegged at over 100% right now. Pacific Palisades' needs won't be exceeding it's capacity within six years, like the article states, it's exceeding it now!

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