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Don’t be fooled when you hear, “It’s just a DUI.”

If you are charged with "driving under the influence," the charge is defined in the California Vehicle Code instead of the California Penal Code, but it's still a criminal charge that carries potential jail time for a first offense and mandatory incarceration for subsequent offenses. 

The Department of Motor Vehicles can also suspend your driving privileges.  And, should you get caught driving while your license is suspended for a DUI, jail time is mandated.

When pulled over for suspected driving under the influence, the officer will gather evidence to establish the probable cause necessary to arrest you for the crime. This will most likely include some testing. Balance and coordination tests, commonly called field sobriety tests, and a preliminary alcohol screening (PAS) test will most likely be requested by the officer. Although it’s generally a good idea to comply with an officer’s request, many times motorists confronted with this situation are made to believe they must comply and actually you are not obligated to do so.

Among the field sobriety tests the officer may ask you to perform are those considered "standardized."

There are three Standardized Field Sobriety Tests (SFSTs) that the National Highway and Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) recognizes as scientific indicators of alcohol impairment:

  1. Standing on one foot and balancing;
  2. The "walk the line and turn test";  
  3. The Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus test (the officer is watching for the involuntary jerking of the eyes, when the eyes slowly track an object).


Each of these "standardized" tests must be explained and administered by the arresting officer accurately in order for the test results to be properly indicative of substance impairment.

A competent criminal defense/DUI lawyer must know the proper administration of these tests for proper assessment of the strength of the case and for effective cross-examination of the officer should the matter proceed to trial or a DMV administrative hearing.

A skilled defense attorney, who is most likely qualified by the National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration (NHTSA), can sometimes determine just from the face of the police report that the officer is not NHTSA-qualified, based on the recitation of his/her administration of the tests. Only an experienced defense attorney would notice this.

Upon an arrest for DUI, you are obligated to take either a blood or breath test (urine is tested if you are suspected of driving under the influence of drugs). Further, you will most likely be jailed at least to "sleep it off." Your vehicle may also be impounded.

The arresting officer will also take your license and issue you a temporary paper license, which is valid only for 30 days unless you take action to contest the DMV’s suspension of your driving privileges.

The DMV action for suspension is independent of the criminal case and is triggered simply by the arresting officer’s declaration that he/she had probable cause to arrest you for driving with a blood alcohol level of 0.08 percent or greater. It is possible to get a reduced charge on the criminal case or even no criminal filing at all but still suffer the suspension from DMV. It is therefore imperative to simultaneously defend both the criminal and administrative actions.

During the litigation of your case there are many items of discovery a skilled criminal defense lawyer knows to obtain. These attorneys also know what any given DUI arrest is worth based on the specific facts of the particular case. Plus, they know how to successfully contest the DMV’s suspension of your driving privileges. 

I encourage you not to "go it alone." It’s important to have a competent defense lawyer to guard your rights; one who specifically knows DUI law and the pitfalls. 

John B. Greet August 24, 2012 at 02:57 pm
Good morning, Tim, officers do have some discretion but not nearly so much as some like to believe.
Bob Perkins DDS August 25, 2012 at 01:57 am
I just drove through a DUI checkpoint in Malibu, just tonight. It was a joke. I was waived through based on I don't know what. I would have had to have been staggerlngly drunk to be detectable to the policeman who glanced at me in the dark for 2 seconds as I drove by.
John B. Greet August 25, 2012 at 03:05 am
Bob, you were waived through based on the number your vehicle happened to be in the court-mandated counting sequence. Agencies stop every 10th, or 5th, or 3rd vehicle, etc, depending upon traffic flow and congestion. There are people (usually civilian assistants and/or volunteers) whose sole job is to keep count to make sure only the designated numbered vehicles are stopped.
This is intended to defend against allegations of unfairly targetting any particular type of driver or vehicle. Again, all mandated as a result of prior litigation.
Bob Perkins DDS August 25, 2012 at 11:59 am
Interesting, John. I didn't know how that worked, but why not stop all the cars?
Lightnapper August 25, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Because that would be intrusive under the 4th Amendment, as the Chief Justice pointed out in his ruling. On June 14th, 1990, in a 6-3 decision, the United States Supreme Court found properly conducted sobriety checkpoints constitutional (Michigan Dept. of State Police v. Stiz (1990). Noting checkpoints infringe on a constitutional right, Chief Justice Rehnquist also argued the state’s interest in reducing drunk driving outweighs this infringement. As a constitutional safeguard properly conducted checkpoints must have specific guidelines to avoid intrusiveness. Checkpoints cannot simply be set up haphazardly. The Supreme Court left it for individual states to determine theses safeguards. In Nov. 1990, the National Highway Traffic Safety Admin. issued a report reviewing recommended checkpoint procedures entitled “The Use of Sobriety Checkpoints for Impaired Driving Enforcement”, DOT HS-807-656. A prior decision by the California Supreme Court also ruled on the necessary standards for planning and administering a DUI checkpoint (Ingersoll v. Palmer (43 Cal.3rd 1321 (1987)). One of those 8 safeguards is what John pointed out. And excluding your obviously "snookered" driver scenario this ensures a measure of fairness.
John B. Greet August 25, 2012 at 03:16 pm
Correct, Light, and thanks. There are exceptions, of course, such as exigent circumsances. An officer is not expected to observe a crime in progress, in plain view, inside a passing car, and not take appropriate enforcement action simply because it isn't the right numbered car, but generally the counts are otherwise followed to the letter, because an entirely arbitrary system of effecting checkpoint detentions helps protect against favoritism, unlawful discrimination, and other sorts of abuses.
Also, Bob, traffic volumes are usually such that it is simply not practical (nor even desireable) to stop every single vehicle. The queue of vehicles would grow far too long, creating severe congestion and traffic hazards for other traffic in the area that is not waiting at the checkpoint.
Bob Perkins DDS August 25, 2012 at 06:24 pm
thanks guys for the valuable information.  We can all agree that our personal liberties are stepped on all the time....drivers licenses, mandatory vaccinations, social security numbers, taxes, etc.. The list would go from here to the moon and back.
There is a trade off. Without being able to search someone's house (with a search warrant) it would be much more difficult to acquire evidence in order to prosecute a criminal.
Tim Sole August 26, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Jose, the one thing that keeps coming up is the term "Privilege". We the people are not given "Privileges" from the government, we grant them to the government. That is "Civics" 101. Again, I have no problem getting drunks off the road, let's just make sure we do not turn this upside down from a constitutional standpoint.
Lightnapper August 26, 2012 at 02:26 pm
@Jose You must have read page 1 of the CA DMV's Driver License Handbook before you took your exam. It states-- "A California driver license shows that you have been granted permission by the state to drive on public roadways." I don't know how much clearer it can get. The state is absolutely granting a privledge; it is not the other way around. The CA Vehicle Code (which are enforceable laws enacted for the people, by the people) further clarify a driver's legal responsibilities, and the requirements which are mandated to ensure pedestrians, drivers, and others safety. It is very clear what is considered legal versus illegal behavior while operating a vehicle on the roadway. Thank you for embracing personal responsibility-- even when it is inconvienient. The majority of Californians (and the majority of the nation's citizens) obviously agree with you, or we would legislate new laws, or we would all be driving anyway we desired. "Stop Signs...we don't need no stinking Stop Signs!" Personally, I choose to drink and sit. After 3 Sierra Nevada Extra IPA Torpedoes topping out at 7.2%, it's just much safer-- as the fall from my chair is only 2 feet. And I have no desire to answer this question when asked by the man in blue-- "Have you been drinking tonight, sir?" Salute, amigo!
John B. Greet August 26, 2012 at 02:31 pm
Tim, I understand your repeated concern in this area but I haven't seen anyone on this thread claim that the privilege to drive on public roads derives "from" government. In truth it derives from the civil society as repesented by a majority of the voters and properly constrained by the rule of law. The privilege derives *through* the government that our society elects and appoints to manage and monitor those and other privileges on its behalf.
To drive on public roads is, indeed, a privilege, not a right, and it is a privilege granted *by* the greater society, *to* qualified individuals, and *through* its elected and appointed government. Sound good? : )
Tim Sole August 26, 2012 at 03:42 pm
John, agreed!
Tim Sole August 26, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Jose, you really don't get it. I'm sorry, but you need to leave now. I'll help you pack. Go somewhere besides America.
Tim Sole August 26, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Light please leave with him.
Lightnapper August 27, 2012 at 01:19 pm
@JT... I've served my country honorably and with integrity for 34 of my 57 years. I'm not going anywhere soon. I love democracy and a sound Republic. And your true nature is finally revealed for all to see. One man's "informed" and "legally sound" opinion does not a deportation or a Treason make-- at least not in my case. Personal attacks are all an Internet wimp such as yourself have left in this otherwise excellent thread and debate. Now we all know, exactly what you are made of. Thank you for that, and good day, sir.
Bob Perkins DDS August 27, 2012 at 01:42 pm
Lightnapper...you took the words out of my mouth. I don't know why JT had to make that turn.....bad form.
Sorry Jose, for having to put up with that stuff.... thanks for your honest input!!
Tim Sole August 27, 2012 at 02:57 pm
Gentlemen, I will not apologize for standing up and stating that the government does not have the right to grant privileges.
They are few countries for which that is true, China, North Korea, Cuba, Iran and Venezuela to name a few. I'm just making sure people understand that here in America, we give our elected officials, the power to govern, we do not give them the power to grant privilege. That Gentlemen is a slippery slope form which their is no return.
Tim Ryder August 29, 2012 at 09:48 pm
The penalties for violating this vehicle code statute probably constitute a violation of the 8th amendment restriction against cruel and unusual punishment. There is no 'injured party' or 'damaged party' and so it doesn't fit the common law definition of a 'crime' per se. The government is trying to curb what is called 'bad behaviour' and has to use misleading and unsupportable propaganda to brainwash us into going along with destroying the lives of so many of our Citizens just because they breathed over .08 on a tiny machine. Take Glendale for example. They averaged 50 DUI arrests a month for the past 10 years. This year they're averaging over 100 arrests a month! Double! Does that mean there are more people drunk driving or is it that they they put 2 nets in the water instead of 1 to catch the fish? Don't let them fool you, it's a revenue collecting scheme for the City and that's it.
John B. Greet August 29, 2012 at 10:39 pm
"The penalties for violating this vehicle code statute probably constitute a violation of the 8th amendment restriction against cruel and unusual punishment."
If so, then anyone so penalized should make that argument before the Court. If they have, and if they were successful, please cite the case(s) in which that occurred. "There is no 'injured party' or 'damaged party' and so it doesn't fit the common law definition of a 'crime' per se." We are not dealing with common law but, rather, criminal law. The definiton of a "crime" in criminal law is generally accepted as: An act or omission, in violation of a public law either forbidding or commanding it, and to which is ascribed one or more punishments including but not limited to; fine, forfeiture of property, incarceration, removal from public office, prohibition from holding public office, etc. In the case of a violation of the State Penal or Vehicle Code, the injured party is the society itself...the people of a given jurisdiction. In the case of misdemeanors that can be the People of the City of Long Beach. In the case of felonies, that can be the People of the State of California. (more)
John B. Greet August 29, 2012 at 10:46 pm
"The government is trying to curb what is called 'bad behaviour' and has to use misleading and unsupportable propaganda to brainwash us into going along with destroying the lives of so many of our Citizens."
The government is fullfilling but one of its Constitutional responsibilities, in this case, to enforce all duly-enacted laws. The People elect a legislative branch which, in turn, enacts the laws. The People then also elect and appoint an executive branch (of which our police forces are a part) to, among other things, enforce the laws we have enacted. "...destroying the lives of so many of our Citizens just because they breathed over .08 on a tiny machine." I think any lives destroyed through lawful DUI enforcement has far more to do with the conscious choice to drive while intoxicated than it does with the actual enforcement of those laws. Should we just stop enforcing those laws? Will lives cease to be destroyed as a result of impaired driving if we did stop? If you consider this question rationally, I think you will agree that they will not cease to be destroyed. In fact, I think there would be considerably *more* destruction.
Bob Polly August 29, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Just watch this video on how to deal with a DUI checkpoint.... very good stuff..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3chtnb9ZiS0
Tim Sole August 29, 2012 at 11:27 pm
To be quite frank, DUI laws, along with the latest new law that has passed both houses here in California, the 3 foot law for bicycles are perfect examples of "Morality" laws. I have the same question with that as I have with the granting of "Privileges" comments. The only difference is, who sets the "Moral" standard? That is pretty scary when you think through it.
Just so we are clear, the .08 is a politically created value that is not based on science. Their are no two humans the same when it comes to alcohol consumption. So, how does one come up with a given point, when scientifically that isn't possible?
John B. Greet August 30, 2012 at 01:30 am
"Just so we are clear, the .08 is a politically created value that is not based on science."
The recommendation that all States move from.10 to .08 BAC came from the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA) in 1992. Here's a link to the report that agency submitted to Congress: http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/research/pub/alcohol-laws/08History/1_introduction.htm It appears to me that the NHTSA based its .08 BAC recommendation on a review of 177 separate published documents of scientific research inquiring into the skills performance effects of alcohol. Here's that report (fair warning, the report on the review of the 177 scientific documents is, itself, 105 pages): http://ntl.bts.gov/lib/25000/25700/25752/DOT-HS-807-280.pdf "Their are no two humans the same when it comes to alcohol consumption. So, how does one come up with a given point, when scientifically that isn't possible?" Well, I think I've answered how NHTSA came up with their .08 BAC recommendation. You are correct that no two people are identical in how alcohol may affect them, this precisely why there are two sub-sections in the primary CA law that deals with impaired driving. Only one requires a .08 BAC and at that level the presumption is that a driver who is 21 or older is impaired. If you dislike this presumption, then work to have it changed. Either that or turn in your driver license. When you accepted it, you agreed to the presumption.
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dui attorney louisville guy76 September 12, 2012 at 08:53 pm
being that upon an arrest for DUI, you are asked to take either a blood or breath test or urine is tested if you are suspected of driving under the influence of drugs. Being this can be the reason for you to be charge with DUI or DWi this should be your main reason for not participating in these activities.
Lightnapper September 12, 2012 at 10:17 pm
In CA, the DMV usually revokes your driver's license at the administrative hearing for that little legal maneuver. When we sign on the dotted line to receive our license, we agree to certain conditions of use, and we are automatically penalized-- administratively-- when we later renege on said agreement. So, while you may not have a misd. Criminal Court conviction-- or you still may depending the circumstances of the arrest-- the DMV will likely revoke your license; and, you will not be allowed to drive a vehicle at all. In LA, that's a hardship for many. Your advice of not providing evidence for LE might be appropriate for more serious offenses-- 2nd, 3rd DUI-- but for a first offense, the ramifications of that refusal could last 10 or more years. 10 years in LA without a license, rather than the customary 3 month suspension, and then a re-issued restricted license, could make a significant impact on someone's financial status. That might be something worth considering.
Angela Berry-Jacoby September 13, 2012 at 01:29 pm
CLARIFICATION AND CORRECTION ON LIGHTNAPPER'S COMMENT: If one refuses a chemical test on a first time dui, two things can happen: 1) on the criminal case, if the prosecution proceeds on the "(a)" count - driving under the influence in contrast to the "(b)" count - driving with 0.08% or greater, and you are convicted, the refusal can increase the punishment; 2) it will cause a ONE YEAR suspension of privilege to drive by DMV.
Lightnapper September 13, 2012 at 02:17 pm
@ AB-J Thanks for the clarification. I was rusty. Glad you jumped in to qualify that. What about a 2nd or 3rd--DUI, since many people tend to still drive under the influence even after a 1st DUI? Will the DMV sanctions for refusing the Chemical/Breath tests, or even the FST, be enhanced/automatic, etc? What are the penalties and administrative sanctions? And the economic implications of even 1 year w/o a license-- rather than a short suspension-- is still something to consider, especially if an individual is employed in LE, a professional driver or courier, a security guard, tradesman, or anything requiring a "clean" driving record.
Lightnapper September 13, 2012 at 03:15 pm
As I work to become non-rusty, here's something to seriously consider if you're employed as a commercial driver, or ever want to be.
V.C. Sec 13353 Refusal of Chemical Test (b) If a person on more than one occasion in separate incidents refuses the officer’s request to submit to, or fails to complete, a chemical test or tests pursuant to Section 23612 while driving a motor vehicle, upon the receipt of the officer’s sworn statement that the officer had reasonable cause to believe the person had been driving a motor vehicle in violation of Section 23140, 23152, or 23153, the department shall disqualify the person from operating a commercial motor vehicle for the rest of his or her lifetime. The other penalties for refusal of tests: 1st DUI-- 1 yr. suspension 2nd DUI within 10 years-- 2 yr. susp. 3rd DUI within 10 yrs-- 3 yr. revocation Under 21 you can't even refuse the PAS (preliminary alcohol screening) without 1-3 yr. sanctions. The nuances of DUI law are great. The decision to not provide evidence to LE should probably be discussed with a competent DUI attorney prior to drinking and driving, but who actually does that? And, in the end, is it actually worth the risk? I suppose if you already have a prior DUI, you need to address this. Still, if you have a prior DUI, and you're still driving DUI, what's going on? Maybe the 3 month Alcohol Diversion Class didn't pay off, and another 18 months and mandatory jail time might just help-- or not.
Angela Berry-Jacoby September 13, 2012 at 04:01 pm
Absolutely. Good recitation of the law

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